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Is porn unhealthy?
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What are peoples opinions on this? Does pornography truly fuel depression, influence misogyny and ruin relationships, or is it the same as people saying that masturbation makes one blind. Discuss!

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Depends on the porn.

Seriously.

A lot of porn (that I've seen, anyway) portrays the woman to be nothing more than cumdumpsters.  Someone who watches porn often may absorb that particular "value" (and I use the term loosely).

On the other hand, my boyfriend and I occasionally watch porn, and it doesn't seem to have affected our relationship or anything else.


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Wow, my first reply in the Intellectual Forum.

Honestly, it depends on who you ask. After my ex broke up with me, I dropped into this void where I watched porn ALL the time. At first I was just horny, and then overtime it turned into me just wanting physical contact with someone. It got so bad that just about every single time I was on the computer, I'd be downloading porn. It definitely got me depressed after a while.

However, that may not be true for everyone. I'm sure casual looking-at of porn won't have much of an effect on you at all. And I've never heard of anyone becoming misogynous through watching porn.

As for ruining relationships, I think it definitely has the propensity to do that. It depends on who you're dating, though. Some people aren't bothered by their partner watching porn. There's even those couples who watch porn together. Then again, other people may find it becomes a divide in their relationship. So it's really a case-to-case type of thing.

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Pornography addiction is unhealthy.  Beyond that, I'm not really willing to comment.

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It can be unhealthy if you watch it 24/7. But I don't see anything wrong with it just from occasional use. I don't think it ruins relationships, unless someone in the relationship feels insecure about their partner watching it. In that case, they should talk it through.

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Quote: from blufindr at 6:15 am on July 27, 2010

Depends on the porn.

Seriously.
Someone who watches porn often may absorb that particular "value" (and I use the term loosely).


I think this is the main issue. It is very similar to the violent video games/movies argument, which by the way has been proven to make people more violent in the real world. So yes, they would adopt the values in pornography. However, through proper education I believe that this effect could be dampened

I know from personal experience that from watching frequently for a year or so now I am starting to view women as sex objects more than I used to.

There is a correlation between depression and pornography; no studies have proven which one causes it but from personal experience I can say depression makes pornography much more interesting.... Kind of the same reasons why unhappy people do more leisure activities I guess.


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Quote: from pat3392 at 11:29 pm on July 27, 2010

I think this is the main issue. It is very similar to the violent video games/movies argument, which by the way has been proven to make people more violent in the real world. So yes, they would adopt the values in pornography. However, through proper education I believe that this effect could be dampened

I know from personal experience that from watching frequently for a year or so now I am starting to view women as sex objects more than I used to.  

There is a correlation between depression and pornography; no studies have proven which one causes it but from personal experience I can say depression makes pornography much more interesting.... Kind of the same reasons why unhappy people do more leisure activities I guess.  


Correlation does not imply causation.  XKCD knew that.  ;)

I think if there was a shift in porn, away from making women the receivers of male lust to making sex an activity of joint consent and enjoyment, the problems might fix themselves.

Also, I play videogames, and I'm not a violent person.  Unless someone hurts my family, but that sort of comes with the territory.


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Ok so let me be more specific with the question; if one is educated about porn's messages, will it still effect his psyche? I think the answer is definitely a yes but how much of a effect would it actually have?

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Quote: from pat3392 at 11:32 pm on July 27, 2010

Ok so let me be more specific with the question; if one is educated about porn's messages, will it still effect his psyche? I think the answer is definitely a yes but how much of a effect would it actually have?

Probably not much more than the rest of our sex-fuelled advertising culture.


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Quote: from pat3392 at 9:29 am on July 27, 2010

Quote: from blufindr at 6:15 am on July 27, 2010

Depends on the porn.  

 Seriously.  
 Someone who watches porn often may absorb that particular "value" (and I use the term loosely).  


It is very similar to the violent video games/movies argument, which by the way has been proven to make people more violent in the real world.

Not get this whole topic off subject, but video games have NEVER been proven to increase violence. In fact, youth violence in America has gone down considerably as video games have gotten more popular and popular. I'm not saying video games are the cause, but it definitely shows that they don't make people MORE violent.

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I think if there was a shift in porn, away from making women the receivers of male lust to making sex an activity of joint consent and enjoyment, the problems might fix themselves.

Also, I play videogames, and I'm not a violent person. Unless someone hurts my family, but that sort of comes with the territory.

Yeah I tend to agree

I play video games too. Even though you may not be violent, studies have already proven that violent video games make children more violent. It sort of "programs" their sub-conscience. Interestingly though, the more exposure they have to it the less effect it has.

It is sort of like the media always showing violent; the viewers start to believe that their environment is a hostile, unsafe one and ironically the people become more violent/corrupt


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Not get this whole topic off subject, but video games have NEVER been proven to increase violence. In fact, youth violence in America has gone down considerably as video games have gotten more popular and popular. I'm not saying video games are the cause, but it definitely shows that they don't make people MORE violent.

Hmm are you sure? I seem to remember my Psychology text book saying otherwise but hey perhaps you are correct, I'll look into it


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I want to see your proof for this.  My friends and I play videogames on a regular basis, and yeah some of them are assholes, but they're not violent per se by any means.

It's emphasis shift.  Instead of the media showing people realistic statistics, i.e. that crime rates have dropped drastically since games have been released, and that crimes committed by children or other young people (I'm thinking school shootings) can be better-linked to mental illnesses, they prefer to have a scapegoat.

Recently, there was a case where a child stabbed another child.  I cannot remember the precise details, but it was emphasised that the perpetrator in question had played lots of videogames.  However, it did not mention at all how parental influence may play into things.  I know that when I and my best male friend were at the same age as the perp (12), we played the same/similar games (GTA, Counterstrike, etc).

We always knew that it was far different from reality, however; that it was unacceptable in real life to hurt someone, etc.  And we rarely played games like that without having an adult or two in the room, so that if we had questions or something truly graphic came up, they could step in and make the necessary explanations to make sure we understood whatever was being shown.

Read this: http://www.bitmob.com/articles/my-four-year-old-son-plays-grand-theft-auto

It's down to parenting, not videogames.  If parents were parents, then kids would not do horrible things, videogames or not.


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Quote: from pat3392 at 11:43 pm on July 27, 2010

Not get this whole topic off subject, but video games have NEVER been proven to increase violence. In fact, youth violence in America has gone down considerably as video games have gotten more popular and popular. I'm not saying video games are the cause, but it definitely shows that they don't make people MORE violent.

Hmm are you sure? I seem to remember my Psychology text book saying otherwise but hey perhaps you are correct, I'll look into it


Hit the quote button when direct-replying.  Please.

Also, check out PubMed.  There are tons of articles on this, and I'm about to go to bed.


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I believe that porn makes women appear to be an object - as blufindr stated, "cumdumpsters."  I find it very degrading as a women.  It definitely was ruining my relationship when my boyfriend would watch it on a daily basis.  Truth be told, I really am not okay with him watching it at all.

Porn portrays women as nothing but an amusement and causes people to lose sight of the true value in other human beings.  When my boyfriend watched porn, he wouldn't make love to me.  He wouldn't love me, hold me, cuddle with me, be passionate with me.  He wouldn't consider MY feelings, all he wanted to do was FUCK me.  He'd come and be done. I had absolutely NO pleasure, it wasn't enjoyable at ALL. Consciously knowing that your mate doesn't care about anything but getting off and getting some ass is VERY hurtful. It DOES destroy the relationship. My boyfriend can NOT watch porn without going insane and trying to mimic it with me. I am NOT a trashy whore. I refuse to let him do it to me.  If he absolutely can NOT live without porn (have you guys even ever tried?  pigs!) then I had BETTER NOT ever have to hear about or know about it, and he had better not touch me for the next six months.  He can beat off ferociously in his hand but he is NOT allowed to treat me like I'm an object and beat me until I feel used, dirty, and broken.  I'm so much better than that.  I have standards.  If I want it rough, I'll let him know.

Anyways - back on topic.  He wouldn't be romantic at all, he'd try everything on me that he saw on the internet and wanted me to respond by being obnoxious and forcing my reactions like the porn.  He'd hit me, pull my hair, etc. etc.  Absolutely NOTHING romantic about that.  Most girls really do NOT like that.  I think that porn skews peoples' images of sex.  It destroys intimate relations and makes sex so much more meaningless and valueless.

There's simply NOTHING attractive about porn.  Honestly - what is so 'hot' about a girl who will take anything into her loose vagina/asshole?  What is so special about that?  Honestly - guys - if it was your dick in that pornstar, would you enjoy it?  Really?  A huge gaping hole that you have no idea where it's been?  And have you really looked at those girls?  They're used, beaten down, dirty...no thank you.  I mean if you want THAT, you can just as easily take a trip down to your towns' hood and pick up yesterday's news off of the street corner.  The only difference is a manicure and some obnoxious red lipstick.

A real woman has values, morals, pride, strength, and would not let a man demean her like that on camera for all the world to see.  The women who are worth being with in this world - the ones with good careers, bright futures, mental stability, etc - are NOT the girls in porn.  Just an FYI.

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