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How Moral are you?
An Experiment in Psychology
Replies: 19Last Post June 21, 2011 3:14pm by Mr Hello
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Wilder


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Since I remembered Kohlberg's stages of moral developments (not the specific stages, but the general progression from obedience out of fear of punishment to accepting universal moral principles) my answer might have been slightly tainted, but I don't fall anywhere on Kohlberg's scale. I don't believe in objective/ inherent morality; to answer that question I first have to ask what relationship it's being asked from, and a variety of relationships would yield a variety of answers.

I guess that makes me stage zero or stage seven depending upon your opinion of moral relativity.

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10:56 am on June 17, 2011 | Joined: Dec. 2005 | Days Active: 1,962
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Quote: from sertrbl at 3:10 am on June 17, 2011

The problem with 5 is that $2000 for what costs around $200 isn't necessarily fair compensation. As for "others may need the medicine just as badly," he's not necessarily preventing others from having the cure. Clearly paying ~$200 would be enough to fund what he took.
So the fix is to steal the medicine and leave an actual compensation (or even the thousand).

I agree with this.

I think the best fit for me is stage six. Saving a human life is far more important but I think the doctor should be paid at least the $200 so others can have access to the medicine as well. He'd need the $200 that it cost to make it plus I think he should be paid a little extra that could actually be considered income. Even if human life is valuable, other people still need to live. It wouldn't be much different than saying that a doctor should care for his patients without payment.

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sertrbl


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Quote: from SpM at 3:32 am on June 17, 2011

Quote: from blufindr at 8:28 am on June 17, 2011

I'm okay with compensating them for their time as well, but if this pharmacist won't even let the guy pay it off in instalments then he's a class-A dick.

and we aren't dicks for living the way we do when so many children are dying for want of clean water?

just how much lawlessness are you willing to tolerate in the name of preserving life? if all starving people everywhere rioted and looted the property of their richer neighbours, would this be just and good? would the world function better once the dust had settled?


it's also important to note that there are many people capable of donating water. Rather, there are many sources of water. That may be an excuse, but any one person who doesn't donate isn't in quite the same position.
This guy, however, is the only person with the cure, and he's absolutely abusing that.

As far as the chaos of every poor person stealing from the rich, a moral government should ideally facilitate. That is, if there are a significant number of poor and a low number of rich (as is generally the case), a change in government should work to fix the problem. This example doesn't really give context, so who's to say the situation isn't "Everyone else in the country votes that the scientist lower his price" instead of "nobody but the involved parties care."

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A lot of great answers. Certainly a bit more thought put into the reasoning then some of the participants that I had.

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